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gjr



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:24 am    Post subject: New mail received Reply with quote

Hi.. Received this in my mailbox this morning,came from address
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This is the mail address Helen aka whoever supplied for info to chase jorgen after Mikes rant some time back

Dear Member,

This information is meant as a reward only for you who have tried to
contact us through this email address.

While it's true that no more fee of any kind will be required from you
to have your payout from the program, but after long considerations
between us, the VSB Legal Team and the Law Firms conducting the payout
process, we hereby are offering some of you an alternative.

If you still choose to be paid by bank drafts, you should understand
that we still have so many things to sort. We are looking at payout by
bank draft in the year 2013 or 2014 at the earliest.

However, all payout funds are real and READY. ALL referral commissions
have been tallied up. We are just having legal problems to pay out
more than 10,000 members by bank drafts, $20,000 or $200,000 each and
some members will be receiving many several drafts.

Therefore we are offering only some of you, an opportunity to be paid
out much earlier than the rest of the group. This opportunity is
LIMITED to only 500 members.

It's payout by international bank wire transfer, directly to any bank
account of your choice.

The funds wired will be cleared into your account within 3 to 7
business days. Not only that, but you will be receiving your FULL
PAYOUT meaning ALL payouts from 4 Stages at ONCE :

Stage 1- Regular Policies
Stage 2- Commissions to Regular Policies
Stage 3- Key Policies
Stage 4- Commissions to Key Policies

Again, if you choose this alternative you will be paid all your full
payouts at once by a single international bank wire to your bank
account.

The cost of this alternative payout method is $500 PER MEMBER, payable
by Liberty Reserve to our account number U0237282 or click this link :

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To prove that this Liberty Reserve account is ours and not hacker's,
go to

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and enter our
account number U0237282 and you will see verified information that the
owner of that account is us.

All payments must be received by no later than DECEMBER 15.
International bank wire transfers take 3 to 7 business days to clear.

This method is only available for the first 500 members. If 500 people
are reached, the account will be closed and NO MORE payment will be
accepted. If your payment can still go through, that means your order
is received.

We hope that this will bring you good news.

On behalf of the VSB Team and everyone working so hard for you,

Regards,

Helen DeGauthier,
Team Director
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Re: New mail received Reply with quote

gjr wrote:
Hi.. Received this in my mailbox this morning,came from address
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This is the mail address Helen aka whoever supplied for info to chase jorgen after Mikes rant some time back

Dear Member,

This information is meant as a reward only for you who have tried to
contact us through this email address.

While it's true that no more fee of any kind will be required from you
to have your payout from the program, but after long considerations
between us, the VSB Legal Team and the Law Firms conducting the payout
process, we hereby are offering some of you an alternative.

If you still choose to be paid by bank drafts, you should understand
that we still have so many things to sort. We are looking at payout by
bank draft in the year 2013 or 2014 at the earliest.

However, all payout funds are real and READY. ALL referral commissions
have been tallied up. We are just having legal problems to pay out
more than 10,000 members by bank drafts, $20,000 or $200,000 each and
some members will be receiving many several drafts.

Therefore we are offering only some of you, an opportunity to be paid
out much earlier than the rest of the group. This opportunity is
LIMITED to only 500 members.

It's payout by international bank wire transfer, directly to any bank
account of your choice.

The funds wired will be cleared into your account within 3 to 7
business days. Not only that, but you will be receiving your FULL
PAYOUT meaning ALL payouts from 4 Stages at ONCE :

Stage 1- Regular Policies
Stage 2- Commissions to Regular Policies
Stage 3- Key Policies
Stage 4- Commissions to Key Policies

Again, if you choose this alternative you will be paid all your full
payouts at once by a single international bank wire to your bank
account.

The cost of this alternative payout method is $500 PER MEMBER, payable
by Liberty Reserve to our account number U0237282 or click this link :

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To prove that this Liberty Reserve account is ours and not hacker's,
go to

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and enter our
account number U0237282 and you will see verified information that the
owner of that account is us.

All payments must be received by no later than DECEMBER 15.
International bank wire transfers take 3 to 7 business days to clear.

This method is only available for the first 500 members. If 500 people
are reached, the account will be closed and NO MORE payment will be
accepted. If your payment can still go through, that means your order
is received.

We hope that this will bring you good news.

On behalf of the VSB Team and everyone working so hard for you,

Regards,

Helen DeGauthier,
Team Director


Do I need to say - go ahead and send 250.000,00 usd as a minimum to Mike Poulos - its a good hourly pay to type the rubbish - it took him max 30 min to develop this.
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Gilgaloth



Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:40 am    Post subject: biggest gouge yet for the e65 members Reply with quote

Remember MP considers he is a genius & the rest of us are retarded. We are expected to lap up this drivel. At least we have had a good laugh today, with his antics. MP seems to be obsessed with, pretending to be a woman. Rolling Eyes
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gjr



Joined: 20 Sep 2011
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes this is a new low

Lets wait for the "official" mail now saying they were hacked
again

Tragic really
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Gilgaloth



Joined: 07 Apr 2011
Posts: 55

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: pathetic Reply with quote

Midget crim MP is trying to project guilt onto Jorgan by sending latest (today's above shown e-mail) scam attempt, from this addy
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As I said, dumb as. Shocked
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american-e65-scammed



Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 188
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this time scammer Mike Poulos and scammer Hansel Kao are using a more "private" manner of requesting money to E65 Endowment65 members. Did you notice that in the last times scammers Poulos and Kao are only using Liberty Reserve?

Tomorrow I will forward the newest money reqquest from Poulos and Kao to the Singapore Police Force.

It seems its a desperate screaming from scammers Poulos and Kao....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Bank Drafts Reply with quote

anyone contemplating sending $500 should first have their head examined. next, go to your bank and find out what are their regulations and requirements to receive large bank wire amounts from overseas. in fact, you should write down accurately the details of the transaction as described in the VSB email and submit it to your banker to see what he/she thinks of it. $500 x 500 = $250,000...MP is just trying to pick your pockets for another year of living extravagantly at your expense.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject: long lasting crime spree Reply with quote

I reckon MP is going to awaken shortly from his drunken stupor and backtrack on this latest lunacy, just like previously with the very entertaining September e-mail 'VSB PAYOUT UPDATE', follwed by 'Website Opened' retraction. Your days of freedom are numbered MP. Don't expect any sympathy from any of your victims, when you are everyone's [CENSORED] in jail. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: long lasting crime spree Reply with quote

Scammer Mike Poulos and scammer Hansel Kao have just posted in the VSB website their "response":


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Here is an email sent to a member by yet, an other hacker.

Please note that no one from VSB is sending members email asking for money.

You can see the full headers and text of the email below.

The information was recieved by Mike from a member in NZ.
There are many people trying to have the server and we are trying to understand where the holes are and how people are getting the email addresses from the members.

According to our server logs, this hack did not go via our servers so it is possible that the sending of this email has some member's email addresses.

Please ignor any emails that may seem to be from VSB asking for money.
VSB has stated in it's last email that there will not be any asking for funds for any reasons.

Regards,

Helen



At Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:31:02 +0700, the email
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sent you an email from the IP
address 66.90.104.57located in United States, Saint Joseph.

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[more info]
IP address: 66.90.104.57
IP address country: United States
IP address state: Michigan
IP address city: Saint Joseph
IP postcode: 49085
IP address latitude: 42.0569
IP address longitude: -86.4563
ISP of this IP: FDCservers.net
Organization: FDCservers.net
Local Time of this IP country: 2011-10-17 22:48
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This Email was sent at Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:31:02 +0700
from IP address 66.90.104.57
IP Location: Saint Joseph in United States.
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royal magenta



Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it that only SOME people receive these emails?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: long lasting crime spree Reply with quote

american-e65-scammed wrote:
Scammer Mike Poulos and scammer Hansel Kao have just posted in the VSB website their "response":


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Here is an email sent to a member by yet, an other hacker.

Please note that no one from VSB is sending members email asking for money.

You can see the full headers and text of the email below.

The information was recieved by Mike from a member in NZ.
There are many people trying to have the server and we are trying to understand where the holes are and how people are getting the email addresses from the members.

According to our server logs, this hack did not go via our servers so it is possible that the sending of this email has some member's email addresses.

Please ignor any emails that may seem to be from VSB asking for money.
VSB has stated in it's last email that there will not be any asking for funds for any reasons.

Regards,

Helen



At Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:31:02 +0700, the email
sender

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sent you an email from the IP
address 66.90.104.57located in United States, Saint Joseph.

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[more info]
IP address: 66.90.104.57
IP address country: United States
IP address state: Michigan
IP address city: Saint Joseph
IP postcode: 49085
IP address latitude: 42.0569
IP address longitude: -86.4563
ISP of this IP: FDCservers.net
Organization: FDCservers.net
Local Time of this IP country: 2011-10-17 22:48
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This Email was sent at Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:31:02 +0700
from IP address 66.90.104.57
IP Location: Saint Joseph in United States.






Once again, Mike Poulos aka Helen has been hacked, or rather he is trying to give you the impression that he have been hacked.

1) VSB is so professional and they can handle to transfer more than 5 trillion U.S. dollars, but they can not secure their email server, a simple task as manage the firewall through port control.
Likewise, you can configure the sending of an email, so that only one IP address has the right to send any0thing out from the server, this is some you get teached at the elementary it school, but in a multibillion dollar company
like VSB, you cannot afford to have an IT professional on the payroll. Mike I can do it for you but it vil cost - a lot, money that du dont have - you loser.

2) really convenient that it is Garlin email address emailing, which strongly indicates that you Mike Poulos try to discredit me so that you can continue your simple thefts from people who have hard times already.

3) I must admit that it's smart to send a reply to all as a pdf file, in that way it is not possible to verify whether the data you send is actually valid, and even more fun is it when I make a network lookup
and then I reach Chicago and well to note the NOC in Chicago and it's more than a million percent sure that NOC Chicago are NOT the ones who send out emails about your scams.

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ReferralServer: rwhois: / / rwhois.fdcservers.net: 4321

OrgNOCHandle: NOC1402-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center
OrgNOCPhone: +1-630-729-0228
OrgNOCEmail:

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OrgTechHandle: ARIN-TECHS72
OrgTechName: Tech Support
OrgTechPhone: +1-630-729-0228
OrgTechEmail:

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OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE438-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: abuse department
OrgAbusePhone: +1-630-729-0228
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Royal magenta

I received the mail possibly because when "Helen" mailed us after Mikes serious rant to Jorgen a while back she said if anyone had any info about Jorgen to mail it to that address
I mailed them alright and told them how Pi...ssed of I was with all of this hence, they, for some unknown reason used those that replied,possibly thinking we were sympathetic to them


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Corncering the LR account and address in Singapore Reply with quote

Concerning the Liberty Reserve account U0237282 which according to LR register service belongs to:

Helen DeGauthier
VSB Legal Team
152 Beach Road,
#28-00 Gateway East
Singapore, 189721

This address is one of the 2 skybuildings on Beach Road, and according to the streetdirectory over more than 300 companies residing in this building I found only these 16 companies residing at #28-00 (level 2Cool:

Ride Group Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 91005166 | Fax: 63430970
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Pendrive (S) Pte. Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 61000230

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Conrad Gift Enterprise
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 62955548

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Commeng Enterprise Corporation Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-LEVEL, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 67462911

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Qast Singapore Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 62214010

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Sovereign Tichwell (Far East) Co. Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 63388322

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Nuvista Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 64526269

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Energy Alloys Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 68275658

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Bubble Globers
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 67896683

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Raffles Corporate Suite Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 62227579

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Neptune It Conslutancy
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 68441456

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RuggedCom Inc.
Gateway East Level 28, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 68275648 | Fax: 62952567

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DSRG Asia Pacific Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 65450801 | Fax: 62342750

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Deep Wreck Exploration Team
Gateway East #28-00, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 65450801 | Fax: 62342750

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Stratagem Global Recruitment Pte Ltd.
Gateway East #Level 28, 152 Beach Road, (S)189721
Tel: 68275621

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ASIA Cellular Satellite Singapore Pte. Ltd.
152 Beach Road,
#28-00, Gateway East,
Singapore 189721
Tel : +65 6827 5636
Fax : +65 6735 6676

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This last company have liasion offices all over the world and in Indonesia at these address':
PT. Asia Cellular Satellite
CYBER Building, 5th Floor
Jl. Kuningan Barat No. 8
Jakarta 12710, INDONESIA
Tel : +62 21 520 9810
Fax : +62 21 520 9811

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and:

PT. Pasifik Satelit Nusantara (PSN)
Kantor Taman A9 Unit C3-C4
Jl. Mega Kuningan Raya Lot 8/9 No. 9
Kawasan Mega Kuningan
Jakarta Selatan 12950
Indonesia
Tel : +6221 8990 0868, 576 2292
Fax : +6221 8990 8380, 576 2290

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But nowhere I found:
Helen DeGauthier
VSB Legal Team
152 Beach Road #28-00 Gateway East
Singapore, 189721

The streetdirectory might be incomplete. But a phone call to all 16 companies above on level 28, would perhaps reveal the existing or non-existing of VSB Legal Team and Helen DeGauthier at that level.

PS. This LR account was created the same day, just a few minuts before the "Dear members..." mail was broadcasted as a "reply to all" type of reply to all the emails recieved in the

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mailbox.
As earlier stated this email was originated from: X-Originating-IP: [66.90.104.57]
Which is: IP: 66.90.104.57 United States Near: Saint Joseph, Michigan, United States. According to:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: CA signee Reply with quote

The IP address is for NOC - Over NOC there is only AS - this is the same as Telia in Sweden or TDC in Denmark, TELCOM in Indonesia etc - and they do not send spam / scam emails out Smile

Document is a pdf file and has been fabricated for this purpose and is not a valid document.

I pretty sure it is part of a larger setup, where it all ends up that I appear to be untrustworthy and a large number of "members" pay more money to Mike - it is almost Christmas.

Notice that Mike always begging for money in the summertime and at Christmas.
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