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Holly



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:31 pm    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

bawalisu, I just reread your post and according to the VSB website my downline and I have a card also. Does that mean that we would not need to order another? That's confusing to me because I assume that every member has credit for a card on the VSB site. Am I wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bottom line is DON'T send any money no matter
what the situation is.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

bawalisu wrote:
Holly wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Bawalisu. Are you or anyone else on this site going to send the money in case there is a possibility of this happening?


I'm not ordering one at this point in time, Holly, but I don't know as the time gets closer. I ordered the original foundation and three debit cards (at $25 and $35). I only received one debit card, which is the one that you received. The VSB web site does gives me credit for ordering three cards.

I also have concerns, but don't have time to list all of them right now. For starters, why the pressure to order by a deadline? Why can't we order them directly from the bank, which is how we normally get debit cards, or at least complete some paperwork? It doesn't seem right that we can get these without any signature.


What you got and what you might get, is a nameless debit card. The reason why you can have a nameless debit card, is that there is ONE account holder to the MAIN account. That ONE is Mike Poulos.

Te main account then have x amount of sub account attached - with no names on, and that is why you dont have to sign.

The Bank Bali (green) debit cards are worthless as Bank Bali closed several years ago.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact people are still asking questions
proves there will still be people sending
money 10 years from now.

DO NOT SEND ANY MORE MONEY OR
EVEN THINK ABOUT SENDING MORE MONEY.

In a short while we can expect the predictable
message that the payments are imminent
and some will need to send between $25-
$50 for a card or some other reason.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

[quote="Holly"]bawalisu, I just reread your post and according to the VSB website my downline and I have a card also. Does that mean that we would not need to order another? That's confusing to me because I assume that every member has credit for a card on the VSB site. Am I wrong?[/quot

I don't remember if everybody was given one. I ordered two additional ones years ago. The first one is useless for sure, and I'm sure the others are, too.
I'm not ordering the new cards.
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

bogor wrote:
bawalisu wrote:
Holly wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Bawalisu. Are you or anyone else on this site going to send the money in case there is a possibility of this happening?


I'm not ordering one at this point in time, Holly, but I don't know as the time gets closer. I ordered the original foundation and three debit cards (at $25 and $35). I only received one debit card, which is the one that you received. The VSB web site does gives me credit for ordering three cards.

I also have concerns, but don't have time to list all of them right now. For starters, why the pressure to order by a deadline? Why can't we order them directly from the bank, which is how we normally get debit cards, or at least complete some paperwork? It doesn't seem right that we can get these without any signature.


What you got and what you might get, is a nameless debit card. The reason why you can have a nameless debit card, is that there is ONE account holder to the MAIN account. That ONE is Mike Poulos.

Te main account then have x amount of sub account attached - with no names on, and that is why you dont have to sign.

The Bank Bali (green) debit cards are worthless as Bank Bali closed several years ago.


Thanks for telling me that. Have you ever used this kind of nameless debit card, and was it accepted everywhere?
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

bawalisu wrote:
bogor wrote:
bawalisu wrote:
Holly wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Bawalisu. Are you or anyone else on this site going to send the money in case there is a possibility of this happening?


I'm not ordering one at this point in time, Holly, but I don't know as the time gets closer. I ordered the original foundation and three debit cards (at $25 and $35). I only received one debit card, which is the one that you received. The VSB web site does gives me credit for ordering three cards.

I also have concerns, but don't have time to list all of them right now. For starters, why the pressure to order by a deadline? Why can't we order them directly from the bank, which is how we normally get debit cards, or at least complete some paperwork? It doesn't seem right that we can get these without any signature.


What you got and what you might get, is a nameless debit card. The reason why you can have a nameless debit card, is that there is ONE account holder to the MAIN account. That ONE is Mike Poulos.

Te main account then have x amount of sub account attached - with no names on, and that is why you dont have to sign.

The Bank Bali (green) debit cards are worthless as Bank Bali closed several years ago.


Thanks for telling me that. Have you ever used this kind of nameless debit card, and was it accepted everywhere?


Yes I have used them, but only in ATMs, only downside is the dayli/monthly withdraw limits
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi bawalisu

Im not sure if I am reading that you might be considering sending money for these cards

I believe it will only prolong this saga if anyone sends money

Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:16 am    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

bawalisu or anyone else that might know the answer to this. Mike states the following: "If you wish to order these debit cards, you may do so by filling out the form below. If you have ordered cards in the past and do not wish additional cards, no need to fill out this form. "bawaliu, is it possible that the cards we received in 2002 are not the cards Mike is referring to but we will be issued new cards if funding happens? My downline and my profile shows one card ordered but I was the only one to receive one and that was years before the VSB website came up. Perhaps he's talking about cards that have not been mailed yet and that would explain why you have credit for three cards and not received them. Maybe the $45 for the new card would be if someone wanted two cards to draw money out at a time of the ATM? Then we will still get whatever amount of cards it shows in our profile and wouldn't have to send more money. Any ideas from you or anyone else?
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

[quote="Holly"] The form that needs to be filled for the debit card asks for the member number. How many people remember what they did with their member numbers after all of these years and there is no way of getting ahold of Mike to ask him what to do.[quote="Holly"]


My Member ID was a combination of the last two digits of my birthday year and my 7-digit telephone number (without area code.)

For example, if Year of Birth is 1985 and 7-digit telephone number is 1234567, then program ID would be: 812345675


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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scandoz wrote:
Hi bawalisu

Im not sure if I am reading that you might be considering sending money for these cards

I believe it will only prolong this saga if anyone sends money

Cheers


It might be useful for everybody to know, as they make their decisions on whether to buy any of the cards, if the cards are accepted everywhere, like VISA, Masterform, American Express. Otherwise, why buy them and load money to them, and then find out that no merchant will accept them because the cards have no name and/or signature on them.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What part of 'I won't be asking for more money' do
some not understand?
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Holly wrote:
bawalisu or anyone else that might know the answer to this. Mike states the following: "If you wish to order these debit cards, you may do so by filling out the form below. If you have ordered cards in the past and do not wish additional cards, no need to fill out this form. "bawaliu, is it possible that the cards we received in 2002 are not the cards Mike is referring to but we will be issued new cards if funding happens? My downline and my profile shows one card ordered but I was the only one to receive one and that was years before the VSB website came up. Perhaps he's talking about cards that have not been mailed yet and that would explain why you have credit for three cards and not received them. Maybe the $45 for the new card would be if someone wanted two cards to draw money out at a time of the ATM? Then we will still get whatever amount of cards it shows in our profile and wouldn't have to send more money. Any ideas from you or anyone else?


Bali Bank debit cards doesnt work. they expired long time ago, and Bank Bali have closed its doors many years ago.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12345 wrote:
What part of 'I won't be asking for more money' do
some not understand?



SPOT ON!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:53 pm    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Thanks for everyone's replies to my questions. I often have a hard time understanding Mike's updates and they are complicated. After reading the last several updates a few times I realize that the $45 for a debit card that he is asking for is so that members can have extras, perhaps to draw more funds out at a time? Since everyone in my downline and myself show a card ordered there is no reason to send more money. Thanks Bogor for informing me of the Bali bank closing as that confirms to me that the cards on our VSB profiles have not been mailed yet. Besides, the account numbers on the debit cards mailed in 2002 would no longer be good after all these years anyways.
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