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Bruce



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:19 am    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

New update is out

As expected he wants more money from stupid members

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW NOT TO SEND HIM ANY MONEY!!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this forum didn't have anything to discuss in the past there certainly is now.
The latest update posses more questions than answers as usual
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
New update is out

As expected he wants more money from stupid members

TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW NOT TO SEND HIM ANY MONEY!!!


Who is surpriced? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CraigB wrote:
If this forum didn't have anything to discuss in the past there certainly is now.
The latest update posses more questions than answers as usual


And no one cant guess why all the smoke Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:25 pm    Post subject: doesn't apply to who already paid the useless Bank Bali Reply with quote

The option for ordering these alleged Hong Kong debit cards doesn't apply to those e65 members that have already paid during 2002 for the useless Bank Bali debit card (received during 2003 year).
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 12:49 am    Post subject: Re: doesn't apply to who already paid the useless Bank B Reply with quote

martin_argentina wrote:
The option for ordering these alleged Hong Kong debit cards doesn't apply to those e65 members that have already paid during 2002 for the useless Bank Bali debit card (received during 2003 year).


Witch is a loooot of people, as I was the one who put the green deb cards in the envelopes.
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Holly



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

I am new to this forum and hope that I'm doing this correctly. $350 for a debit card!!? I read many times that Mike will not ask for any more money and thought I read that any extra expenses will come out of the funding. Since there is no way to get a hold of Mike can someone tell me what's up with the $350?
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scandoz



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Holly

Mike has put the fear of god into anyone who didnt get a foundation or debit card in the past,stating that the Govt will take it all.
He says you need a debit card to be safe,really,, thats all you need to stop a govt from taking anything they deem to be not above board.Must be an amazing account,A foundation maybe
Of course we have never seen a foundation Doc and most never saw a debit card
Dont send any more money,like you said he stated anything extra would be taken from payouts,why dont people read that again in his many updates
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told you that Mike blackmail me not to complain to PM. He does it again and again everytime claimed that the money is almost already. Real scammer.
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Holly



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 1:32 am    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

yeeyuket wrote:
I told you that Mike blackmail me not to complain to PM. He does it again and again everytime claimed that the money is almost already. Real scammer.

Who is PM?

Thank's for your replies. I have put about $6,000 into this program since the year 2000 and along with many other members I received a debit card in the mail in 2002 but of course there were no funds. Mike mentions in his last update that the members who have those debit cards wouldn't need a new one. He knows as well as everyone else that nobody is going to keep a card that is worthless so why even mention that? Also, the way the wording is in this recent update reminds me of the several emails we got around 2011-2012 saying that funding will happen soon and we need to wire $150-$300 to get paid. Mike mentioned several times that he would not ask for anymore money so I didn't send any but members in my downline almost did. This was going on when the site was down and then months AFTER the emails Mike stated that the site was hacked into and the member list was stolen and not to send money to whoever was sending these. My guess was that it was Mike all along sending us these emails asking for money. Does anyone know if it was?
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Holly wrote:
yeeyuket wrote:
I told you that Mike blackmail me not to complain to PM. He does it again and again everytime claimed that the money is almost already. Real scammer.

Who is PM?

Thank's for your replies. I have put about $6,000 into this program since the year 2000 and along with many other members I received a debit card in the mail in 2002 but of course there were no funds. Mike mentions in his last update that the members who have those debit cards wouldn't need a new one. He knows as well as everyone else that nobody is going to keep a card that is worthless so why even mention that? Also, the way the wording is in this recent update reminds me of the several emails we got around 2011-2012 saying that funding will happen soon and we need to wire $150-$300 to get paid. Mike mentioned several times that he would not ask for anymore money so I didn't send any but members in my downline almost did. This was going on when the site was down and then months AFTER the emails Mike stated that the site was hacked into and the member list was stolen and not to send money to whoever was sending these. My guess was that it was Mike all along sending us these emails asking for money. Does anyone know if it was?


I lodged a report in response to money request from Mike to pay into a Prefect Money account. PM has forzened the PM account. Mike traced back to me with all details and downlines. If that was not Mike, who else has the members genealogy list.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Holly wrote:
I am new to this forum and hope that I'm doing this correctly. $350 for a debit card!!? I read many times that Mike will not ask for any more money and thought I read that any extra expenses will come out of the funding. Since there is no way to get a hold of Mike can someone tell me what's up with the $350?


If I converted the $350 Hong Kong Dollar to USA dollars, the first debit card is around $45, and the extra cards are around $16.


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Holly



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 8:37 am    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification Bawalisu. Are you or anyone else on this site going to send the money in case there is a possibility of this happening?
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wanlyn



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Holly wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Bawalisu. Are you or anyone else on this site going to send the money in case there is a possibility of this happening?


I'm not ordering one at this point in time, Holly, but I don't know as the time gets closer. I ordered the original foundation and three debit cards. I only received one debit card, which is the one that you received. The VSB web site does gives me credit for ordering three cards.


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Holly



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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:10 pm    Post subject: NEW DEBIT CARDS HAHAHAHA Reply with quote

Good points Bawalisu. We also have never had a letter from an attorney's office. Most people on this forum believe this is a scam and I agree with them. Mike has not been very upfront with us nor apologize for keeping us in the dark for several years without updates. Nor did he apologize for claiming that someone hacked into the database and stole the members personal information that could have lead to identity theft. Who knows how many members sent money to whoever sent those emails to us between 2011-2013 with no payout happening. The form that needs to be filled for the debit card asks for the member number. How many people remember what they did with their member numbers after all of these years and there is no way of getting ahold of Mike to ask him what to do. In a recent update Mike extended the time for members to update their addresses because many members said they had a hard time contacting their downline. If there was no way of contacting Mike to inform him of that how would he know they were having a hard time? If I decide to take a chance and get a card do you know if listing our ID# would be the same as member#?
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