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Reacher



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soliel wrote:
Reacher wrote:
soliel wrote:
Does anyone remember in 2007 Mike said 50 test packets went out?

Then we never heard any more about it?


Yes I remember.

Now it is 2017.

I guess in 2027 we will remember there test in 2017


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Why do you think Mike wants our IDs ?


He does not want our ID, he never wanted it.

ID is just a bait to make us think that there are actually people processing our ID etc. To create the illusion that it is real.


Right now he just want to make us pay the courier fee.

Think about this :

All of us, did send our ID along with our CA forms years ago.


Whatever happened to them?

Mike said they were all scanned.


But now he cannot even show us those ID we sent.

Our IDs were destroyed, money taken from our envelopes and our IDs tossed out to the trash bin
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reacher wrote:
soliel wrote:
Reacher wrote:
soliel wrote:
Does anyone remember in 2007 Mike said 50 test packets went out?

Then we never heard any more about it?


Yes I remember.

Now it is 2017.

I guess in 2027 we will remember there test in 2017


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Why do you think Mike wants our IDs ?


He does not want our ID, he never wanted it.

ID is just a bait to make us think that there are actually people processing our ID etc. To create the illusion that it is real.


Right now he just want to make us pay the courier fee.

Think about this :

All of us, did send our ID along with our CA forms years ago.


Whatever happened to them?

Mike said they were all scanned.


But now he cannot even show us those ID we sent.

Our IDs were destroyed, money taken from our envelopes and our IDs tossed out to the trash bin


And the same happend to the IDs sent in 2002/3/4 etc Twisted Evil
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wanlyn



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:32 pm    Post subject: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

[quote="Reacher"][quote="soliel"][quote="Reacher"]
soliel wrote:
.... All of us, did send our ID along with our CA forms years ago.

Whatever happened to them?

Mike said they were all scanned. But now he cannot even show us those ID we sent.

Our IDs were destroyed, money taken from our envelopes and our IDs tossed out to the trash bin

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I got an immediate email confirmation (probably an autoresponder) when I re-sent my ID card today using the link mentioned on the 10/5/2017 update. I never received any response to my ID email of September.

Many E65 members may have changed addresses and even names since we sent copies of our IDs with the Confidentiality Agreements (2009?).


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

[quote="Bawalisu"][quote="Reacher"][quote="soliel"]
Reacher wrote:
soliel wrote:
.... All of us, did send our ID along with our CA forms years ago.

Whatever happened to them?

Mike said they were all scanned. But now he cannot even show us those ID we sent.

Our IDs were destroyed, money taken from our envelopes and our IDs tossed out to the trash bin

===============================================

I got an immediate email confirmation (probably an autoresponder) when I re-sent my ID card today using the link mentioned on the 10/5/2017 update. I never received any response to my ID email of September.

Many E65 members may have changed addresses since we sent copies of our IDs with the Confidentiality Agreements (2009?). I, too, wonder what they did with those IDs and other paperwork. But E65 is what it is.


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How about on profile where it says Accept Courier? and if we put 'Yes' years ago? And nothing was said about payment then?

One other thing: does anyone remember an update from 2014 [may have been 2013] with just the words: 'GET READY' ?

Also does anyone else get email notification when there is a 'new update' as I do not?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

Regarding the Courier option, I already said in this e65forum that I opted for REGULAR MAIL.

Recently, I emailed Jeff posing 2 important concerns about the Courier option:

1)for being a "flat rate", 650 HKD (around 83 U$) is expensive, as, for instance, Federal Express charges 250 HKD for a shipment form Hong Kong to Singapore. 650 HKD is ok for a FedEx shipment from Hong Kong to Argentina, however most e65 members live in Europe, the USA and Asia. No response from Jeff yet.


2)as I have a FedEx account, I provided Jeff my FedEx account number to be used for shipping the e65 docs to me and 2 of my downlines. I find this to be an excellent alternative instead of sending money to the hidden Mike and also as an alternative to REGULAR MAIL. No response from Jeff either...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

martin_argentina wrote:
Regarding the Courier option, I already said in this e65forum that I opted for REGULAR MAIL.

Recently, I emailed Jeff posing 2 important concerns about the Courier option:

1)for being a "flat rate", 650 HKD (around 83 U$) is expensive, as, for instance, Federal Express charges 250 HKD for a shipment form Hong Kong to Singapore. 650 HKD is ok for a FedEx shipment from Hong Kong to Argentina, however most e65 members live in Europe, the USA and Asia. No response from Jeff yet.


2)as I have a FedEx account, I provided Jeff my FedEx account number to be used for shipping the e65 docs to me and 2 of my downlines. I find this to be an excellent alternative instead of sending money to the hidden Mike and also as an alternative to REGULAR MAIL. No response from Jeff either...


You wont receive satisfactory answer for either questions.

1. Jeff realizes the courier money is just Mike wanting to collect money from members and Jeff is hoping to get a piece of the pie so he ll phrase a diplomatic answer why it is 650 dollars which is basically triple the average rate from HK to any country.

2. Because collecting this money is their intention, your solution, no matter how logical it is, will simply be refused "It can not be done that way"
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject: yep very wary... Reply with quote

hi i am new here , my mother has just sent more money , for the "courier option " was sent the email with his address etc... so i done a google earth search ,, seems some of the address is bogus , but part of it worked in the keyword search , and upon finding the street name , there happens to be another 15 or more streets that are named identical! lol, and the funds were asked to be deposited into the south Jakarta branch , which is a 1 hour and 40 min flight from his residence.....don't want to see her loosing all this money for broken dreams ...


scandoz wrote:
yes very familiar


Prey on peoples desperation to get paid out first

Again over and over he has stated that he wont be asking for any more money

Why would anyone send any more money,please wake up ,he is masterful at waiting then getting people to think its just around the corner but there is one last cost to get it
Also the guarded threat that via post you just might not get the documents and that they will only be sent once,really ,so if they dont turn up thats it

The longer people keep sending him money the longer this nightmare continues
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: yep very wary... Reply with quote

kiwionthecoast wrote:
hi i am new here , my mother has just sent more money , for the "courier option " was sent the email with his address etc... so i done a google earth search ,, seems some of the address is bogus , but part of it worked in the keyword search , and upon finding the street name , there happens to be another 15 or more streets that are named identical! lol, and the funds were asked to be deposited into the south Jakarta branch , which is a 1 hour and 40 min flight from his residence.....don't want to see her loosing all this money for broken dreams ...


scandoz wrote:
yes very familiar


Prey on peoples desperation to get paid out first

Again over and over he has stated that he wont be asking for any more money

Why would anyone send any more money,please wake up ,he is masterful at waiting then getting people to think its just around the corner but there is one last cost to get it
Also the guarded threat that via post you just might not get the documents and that they will only be sent once,really ,so if they dont turn up thats it

The longer people keep sending him money the longer this nightmare continues



Mike is not living in Batam any longer, but lives in Jakarta South, Bogor area, however street name, phone number and e-mail adr is unknown, witch should ring a bell or 2000 Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

martin_argentina wrote:
Regarding the Courier option, I already said in this e65forum that I opted for REGULAR MAIL.

Recently, I emailed Jeff posing 2 important concerns about the Courier option:

1)for being a "flat rate", 650 HKD (around 83 U$) is expensive, as, for instance, Federal Express charges 250 HKD for a shipment form Hong Kong to Singapore. 650 HKD is ok for a FedEx shipment from Hong Kong to Argentina, however most e65 members live in Europe, the USA and Asia. No response from Jeff yet.


2)as I have a FedEx account, I provided Jeff my FedEx account number to be used for shipping the e65 docs to me and 2 of my downlines. I find this to be an excellent alternative instead of sending money to the hidden Mike and also as an alternative to REGULAR MAIL. No response from Jeff either...


Martin my man, you should by now have figured it out, Jeff is either 79% more stupid than a piece of wood, or he have his hands deeeeep down in Mikes pocket Very Happy your choice mate Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

[quote="soliel"][quote="Bawalisu"][quote="Reacher"]
soliel wrote:
Reacher wrote:
soliel wrote:
.... All of us, did send our ID along with our CA forms years ago.

Whatever happened to them?

Mike said they were all scanned. But now he cannot even show us those ID we sent.

Our IDs were destroyed, money taken from our envelopes and our IDs tossed out to the trash bin

===============================================

I got an immediate email confirmation (probably an autoresponder) when I re-sent my ID card today using the link mentioned on the 10/5/2017 update. I never received any response to my ID email of September.

Many E65 members may have changed addresses since we sent copies of our IDs with the Confidentiality Agreements (2009?). I, too, wonder what they did with those IDs and other paperwork. But E65 is what it is.


--------------------

How about on profile where it says Accept Courier? and if we put 'Yes' years ago? And nothing was said about payment then?

One other thing: does anyone remember an update from 2014 [may have been 2013] with just the words: 'GET READY' ?

Also does anyone else get email notification when there is a 'new update' as I do not?


Soliel, how about you try to put in the words PAY OUT in front of every socalled update sent out since 1999, and when done, then do the same again but change the words PAY OUT with the word SCAM. Then see wich solution fits the best

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

martin_argentina wrote:
Regarding the Courier option, I already said in this e65forum that I opted for REGULAR MAIL.

Recently, I emailed Jeff posing 2 important concerns about the Courier option:

1)for being a "flat rate", 650 HKD (around 83 U$) is expensive, as, for instance, Federal Express charges 250 HKD for a shipment form Hong Kong to Singapore. 650 HKD is ok for a FedEx shipment from Hong Kong to Argentina, however most e65 members live in Europe, the USA and Asia. No response from Jeff yet.


2)as I have a FedEx account, I provided Jeff my FedEx account number to be used for shipping the e65 docs to me and 2 of my downlines. I find this to be an excellent alternative instead of sending money to the hidden Mike and also as an alternative to REGULAR MAIL. No response from Jeff either...


No reply, hmm ?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

[quote="martin_argentina"] .... 1)for being a "flat rate", 650 HKD (around 83 U$) is expensive, as, for instance, Federal Express charges 250 HKD for a shipment form Hong Kong to Singapore. 650 HKD is ok for a FedEx shipment from Hong Kong to Argentina, however most e65 members live in Europe, the USA and Asia. No response from Jeff yet....

I calculated the costs for shipping a one-pound envelope from Batam, Indonesia to the United States using FedEx's web site, and the rates ranged from $91 International Priority; $91 International Economy; and $140 International First. The rates earlier in the day ranged from $71 to $91.

So $83 for an American citizen isn't unreasonable, if someone wanted to spend more money on this program.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

I reiterate my suggestion to choose REGULAR MAIL so you pay nothing and force the e65 to prove it is for real. I agree with Reacher in that sense

wanlyn wrote:
I calculated the osts for shipping a one-pound envelope from Batam, Indonesia to the United States using FedEx's web site, and the rates ranged from $91 International Priority; $91 International Economy; and $140 International First. The rates earlier in the day ranged from $71 to $91.

So $83 for an American citizen isn't unreasonable, if someone wanted to spend more money on this program.


that calculation is wrong as the originating point is Hong Kong and the US people have a cheaper courier: E.M.S. (Express Mail Service).
E65 members living in Singapore, Indonesia, New Zealand, Australia have fares around 250 HKD for a courier shipment from Hong Kong to those countries so 650 HKD is extremely expensive for them
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

martin_argentina wrote:
.... that calculation is wrong as the originating point is Hong Kong and the US people have a cheaper courier: E.M.S. (Express Mail Service).
E65 members living in Singapore, Indonesia, New Zealand, Australia have fares around 250 HKD for a courier shipment from Hong Kong to those countries so 650 HKD is extremely expensive for them


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: October 5 Update about ID Email Reply with quote

wanlyn wrote:
martin_argentina wrote:
.... that calculation is wrong as the originating point is Hong Kong and the US people have a cheaper courier: E.M.S. (Express Mail Service).
E65 members living in Singapore, Indonesia, New Zealand, Australia have fares around 250 HKD for a courier shipment from Hong Kong to those countries so 650 HKD is extremely expensive for them


I agree that anyone who wants to use the courier service should be able to choose the carrier that is best for their country.


So?

Your opinion or Martin's opinion does not mean [CENSORED] to them!
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